Why China bears are wrong: An interview with Andy Rothman


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A conversation with a leading China economist who goes against the gloom and doom that is the current conventional wisdom.

Andy Rothman has interpreted the Chinese economy for people who have serious and practical decisions to make since his early career heading up macroeconomic research at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. He is now an investment strategist for Matthews Asia, where he continues to focus on the Chinese economy and writes the Sinology column. His analysis often diverges from what’s in the headlines, and the contrast between Andy’s interpretation and the dominant, deeply gloomy media narrative of the last year or more is especially pronounced. In this podcast, Sinica hosts Jeremy and Kaiser ask Andy to explain why he’s still bullish after all this time.

Don’t miss our backgrounder for this episode, “The truth about the Chinese economy, from debt to ghost cities,” and a Q&A with Andy, in which he talks about how he got started in China.


Jeremy: The Killer Angels: The Classic Novel of the Civil War, by Michael Shaara, and Battle Cry of Freedom: The Civil War Era, by James M. McPherson.

Andy: The Man Who Stayed Behind, by Sidney Rittenberg, and After the Bitter Comes the Sweet: How One Woman Weathered the Storms of China’s Recent History, by Yulin Rittenberg.

Kaiser: The Honeycrisp apple cultivar.